Tentang Pilihan dan Kematian

kucing : dear, given a choice kan
kucing : would u prefer utk mati mengejut or mati lepas sakit lamo sket
kucing : sori if this question make u feel uneasy
kucing : hehe

Kulat : hehehhehe
Kulat : jap mikir
Kulat : mati sakik lamo

kucing : why

Kulat : sbb
Kulat : atleast i ado maso ler nok mikir pasal nok taubat, nak beramah mesra ngan ahli keluarga
Kulat : nak mintak maaf
Kulat : mengejut mmg tak best lah dear

kucing : another question
kucing : given a choice..
kucing : terminal illness
kucing : nak ambil palliative treatment supaya dpt hidup lamo sikek ko
kucing : atau tokse
kucing : sbb in the end mati jugok kang sbb penyakit tu
kucing : nk prolong life ko tokse

Kulat : hmmm....
Kulat : mace duk ngaji dale kelas ethics in medicine jah ni hehehe

kucing : well~

Kulat : idup lamo sikik tu brapo lamo?

kucing : hmm...
kucing : not sure

Kulat : basically treatment or not la keng

kucing : yeps
kucing : tp
kucing : palliative treatment
kucing : mmg takleh sembuh
kucing : and it's COSTLY

Kulat : kalu i, i buat....
kucing : why would u do i?
kucing : (assume u can afford it la)
Kulat : sbb i rs stupid kalu x buat
kucing : why stupid
Kulat : sbb kalu i dgr ore hak ada chance utk idup lebih lama
Kulat : tp xnak take the chance
Kulat : that is stupid
Kulat : so, if kena pada i....mesti i nak gak treatment tu

kucing : what does longer life guarantee?
kucing : knp nk hidup lama sgt?
Kulat : ermm...takuk matiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
kucing : adekah dgn idup lama tu sure dpt buat amal banyok n taubat n kutip pahalo
kucing : kalu idup lamo koho tambah doso..?
Kulat : no no
kucing : lagipun ore masuk syurga or neraka dgn rahmah Allah, bukan krn amal

Kulat : dying - by itself is terrifying

kucing : (i believe u understand my statement tu)
Kulat : yer yer pehe
kucing : hmm, why do find it terrifying?
kucing : (sorry if u think i'm morbid, but i found death fascinating)
kucing : (not because i'm frustrated with life or what, cuma rs menarik)

Kulat : your own death pun fascinating kor?

kucing : (of kos la i TAKUK gok, tapi i found death n dying, well, fascinating. yes, even mine)

Kulat : kalu i, maybe other people's death......but my own....

kucing : why are you terrified of it?

Kulat : kalu i ler ni
Kulat : jap nok mikir

kucing : sori dear, but it's really interesting and mind-opening to explore reasons n issues like this
kucing : that sometimes we took for granted

Kulat : macam ni i rs
Kulat : it is terrifying because it is unevitable
Kulat : u r not the one who makes the decision when n whether u want it or not
Kulat : and once u r dead, u cannot be alive again
Kulat : u cannot go back

kucing : it's terminal

Kulat : yer yer thats the word

kucing : (that's one thing i found daunting about death, it's terminal-ness)
kucing : teruskan

Kulat : the fact that u cannot become alive again, i think that's terrifying
Kulat : if u bleh jer rs jap, dan come back.... only then it can be fascinating
Kulat : dan satu lagi
Kulat : bila ore tu alive, dia buleh kecek...wak naka etc
Kulat : tapi once that person is dead................
Kulat : he/she is just a body....

kucing : er, now u r talking about org lain punye death ke guano nih

Kulat : buke....my own death ler

kucing : teruskan, i tak fhm sgt lagi konsep yg u nk ckp tu

Kulat : mcm ni, i sll tgk dlm movie perang kan
Kulat : masa ore tu idup, bestfren la keng
Kulat : tapi bila ore tu mati..... terpaksa ditinggalkan to rot just like that
Kulat : maksudnya..... bila dah mati, u have no value to other ppl

kucing : hilang identity?
kucing : become a non-person?

Kulat : walau mcm mana org lain syg u, once u r dead.... they have to let go
Kulat : non-person tu gapo? plant kor?

kucing : err.. kirenye tak wujud lagi laa

Kulat : yer yer

kucing : hehe
kucing : non-entity

Kulat : u tok sero gitu kor kalau tgk cerita ore mati hok keno tinggal?

kucing : not really
kucing : sbb it's quite firmly planted in my mind that the person is the soul
kucing : kalau dh mati, soul dh blah gi mana yg die kna pergi
kucing : the body is, what it is, without a soul it's a mass of organic compounds
kucing : it is, as you say - or I said sbnrnye - a non-entity
kucing : why do u find it - er, menakutkan?

Kulat : it tu gapo?

kucing : the fact that death turns a person into a non-person

Kulat : yg i rs menakutkan adalah perubahan dr a person to non-person tu
Kulat : dari manusia yg boleh berjalan, kecek
Kulat : sesaat u mati, u r nothing

kucing : hmm.. (sdg memahami dan cube meresapkan ke dlm fikiran utk empathize)
kucing : nk jd writer kna la pandai empathize

Kulat : i rs mcm ni sebenarnya bila tgk movie yg ada kematian, dan org tu terpaksa ditinggalkan
Kulat : maksudnya, bila org tu alive the friend mesti jaga n sayang....tapi bila dah mati, u become nothing.... n other people also need to let go n move on......
Kulat : u r now just a dead person
Kulat : if dlm keadaan bahaya ker, no one will care about u because u dead

kucing : menarik, i had never heard ppl taking it in that viewpoint

Kulat : they will only care about themselves, if they cant carry u... then they will let u rot mcm tu jer.... dah hilang dah rs nak jaga n sayang tu sbb harga diri mereka, as someone is alive is more valuable now
Kulat : sama mcm dalam bilik surgery ker
Kulat : masa nak selamatkan u, org bleh work on your body n selamatkan u
Kulat : bertungkus lumus
Kulat : but once u r dead
Kulat : well, u r now just a body.... semua org tarik nafas lepas lelah, dan move on

kucing : hahahha, “mati jugok akhirnye”
kucing : (ayat u tu lucu, “tarik nafas lepas lelah”)
Kulat : lerrr doh meme gitu
kucing : mcm relieved plok akhirnye dh mati so tak payah susah lagi
Kulat : hahahha
Kulat : transition tu sgt ketara actually

kucing : normally if one is afraid of death, one would try not to think about it kan
kucing : but that would lead to a very dangerous method of coping, which is by pretending the problem doesn't exist, and hence not preparing to face it
kucing : in other words, one wouldn't really prepare for death - or more explicitly, for life after death
kucing : what say u?

Kulat : hmmm....
Kulat : eh saje nak syer
Kulat : aritu i gi interfaith dialogue tajuk 'where do i go from here?'
Kulat : dialogue tu pasal life after death la keng
Kulat : pastu ado ore tny sek secular humanism
Kulat : ke mana kita pergi selepas kita mati?
Kulat : then speaker dia dgn penuh confident jawab
Kulat : 'asking where we will go after we r dead is like asking where does the picture go after we turn off the tv'

kucing : (i see a flawed logic and a mismatched analogy there, but go on)

Kulat : masa dia oyak tu, i baru lepas belajar pasal pictures on tv mcm spm, so i gelak kuat giller
Kulat : tu jer ler i nak syer.... i just rs kelakar jer

meow~